Yea it wasn't fair to single her out in particularity. I should've reworded that and said her style of LP blitzing could be the cause of the SOE LP/Isk conversion rate decline.

10 burners missions. One burner mission is usually 14.2k LP.

Here are my times from when I measured time starting with
clicking accept mission to complete mission ( 2jumps )

Burner Angel
4min 35s
4min 45s
4min 34s
4min 21s
4min 7s

Burner Blood (should a bit lower now since I optimised ship setup further ( atleast 20s to 40s)
7min 22s

Burner Gurista
6min 10s
6min 6s
6min 8s
5min 23s
6min 4s

Burner Sansha
5min 15s
5min
5min 8s
5min
4min 26s (Ascendency implants)
4min 43s

Burner Serpentis
4min 40s
4min 52s
4min 54s
5min 4s
4min 59s
4min 26s (Ascendency implants)

Team Enyo
5min 9s
5min 50s
6min 12s

Team Jaguar
5min 50s
5min 36s
5min 58s

Team Vengeance
5min 26s
Team Vengeance
6min 20s

Team Hawk
5min
6min 13s
5min 17s
5min 41s
4min 42s
4min 58s
5min 10s


This is from yesterdays session.

I wouldn't have believed it before but it's certainly possible. I run more of the normal mission even though they're around half the income / min of burners and isn't strictly nessesary and my skills are far from optimal. My ship fits aren't all max blinged out either so some burners take a bit longer than necessary. Because of the high rep speed and relative low total HP of burners compared to normal Lv4 missions people are used to, a small increase in dps can actually have a pretty sizable impact on speed to kill.

What implants apart form ascendancies are you using? Interested to see what your're boosting. My guess would be rockets? Or do you use light missiles for the team burners?

Also the blood burner is currently my biggest pita. Using a cap injected armor wolf?

I didn't know me and yo momma shared the same 1st name. That's amazing!

use basically the same jag but 33 hp/s "can be " not enough. lost one somedays during a smashing spree. just saying.

there is nothing to offline tankbased i know the stats. fit worked so far for 50 burners as it pops. cruor had like 20 smashing hits that time.

at how many % did your shield stay normal ?

given how shiny some of the burner fits can get a little opsec isn't a bad idea. not giving away their active times isn't a bad idea.

here's one from me http://i.imgur.com/GuIbxNm.png
bonus link, have some mission names: http://i.imgur.com/o2ycSo9.png
(just in case anyone wants to tell me blitzing is unsustainable standings wise, although I did gone berserk on 10.5, 9.17, 9.15 and cba to go back more from there)

it goes back a while as I haven't really been running anywhere near consistently lately. I can't say if any inefficiencies were caused by controllable distractions (ie forum posting, **** breaks, refilling the drink, other breaks, updating buy/sell orders), piloting mistakes (ie burn out guns, mess up transversal, activate the mods in the wrong order, or forget timely heat), or dumb luck (ie not getting a successful ECM jam, although over time that will average out)

in a number of cases I cheap out on ships/fittings, so some time could be made up there, and as I said I use ECM ships on most team burners, which are a bit variable in completion times. According to eve-search I had 23 forum posts on 9.25, I'd say that is a decent level of distractions.

I believe over 300 is doable, but requires specific things. over 200 should be pretty widely reproducible. and 180ish should be doable almost anywhere.

I think it is reasonably fair to simplify burners into 30mil blocks. Breaking it down into 5mil bounty, 5mil in reward+bonus, 20mil in LP I'd say it is about fair or perhaps slightly under current LP rewards and trade values. so to hit 300mil/hour that requires 10 missions, or a 6min average. If I drop down to a 7m completion time that is ~8.5/hour, or 255mil/hour.

I'm mostly convinced they need some sort of nerf, but I haven't seen the burners killboard either

second one at 33 is more impotant. means he nearly breaks your tank. will only say its a bit dangerous, but anyhow we are at the wrong thread

It's self regulating. if enough people run them properly then SOE LP value will automatically go down. So far Stratios prices have been rock solid stable since they were introduced (Except for the current price spike).

Why do you feel it needs to be nerfed? Keep in mind that burners don't inject much isk into the economy, compared to nullsec ratting for example.

Sold multiple stratios BPCs for 275mill this weekend: over 2k isk/lp
Sold stacks of probe launchers this weekend (to buy orders) for 36mill each: over 1800isk/lp
Buy orders for probe launchers are CURRENTLY at 35mill each, in Jita: 1762 isk/lp

See, I told you you were going to hurt yourself.

At 36mill
36 000 000 - 9 600 000 - 25 000
= 26 375 000

26 375 000 isk / 14 400 LP
= 1 832isk/lp

At 34.5mill
34 500 000 - 9 600 000 - 25 000
= 25 375 000

25 375 000 isk / 14400 LP
= 1 727 isk/lp

Having some trouble with math are we?

Finally bothered logging into eve and actually checking your facts?

uuhhhmm.. do I need to mention there are 2 different sisters probe launchers?

the core ones are selling for 36m+ and buying at 35mil in jita right now. the expanded ones are 34.8/33.1. as they have slightly different uses, ie core are only useful for finding sites and have very low fitting costs, where the expanded ones can be used to probe out ships or sites but has very high cpu fitting cost.

If you get a nice quiet bit of LS and find the right corp to run for you could rake it in with lv4s and burners in LS. No idea if such a place exists though

lol

he can do a burner in this 5 min. and has 30-35 m isk. after that he can chillin too.